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Taino the official language of PortoRico
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S***@aol.com
2006-11-06 04:38:42 UTC
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We in the USA demand that Taino be made the one and only official
language of PortoRico. We would like to revive a language that was once

spoken all throughout PortoRico by the great Tainos. Taino was spoken
in
PortoRico BEFORE Spanish That Spanish is now the official language of
PortoRico, and not Taino, is not fair. We demand change now! Taino the
official language of PortoRico!


from "The Tainos, the people who welcomed Columbus", by Francine
Jacobs, copyright 1992
page 52
Though the admiral had directed that the Tainos be treated kindly and
with respect, he had turned loose an army of hungry soldiers. The
Spaniards swept across the once tranquil plains like a swarm of
locusts, leaving ruin and famine in their path. Taino villages were
sacked, and the little food stored in their huts was taken. The
oppressed Tainos fled their villages, abandoned their carefully
cultivated conucos and became refugees in their own land.

page 53
The Spanish depended upon the Indians to supply their food, but many
Tainos had fled their homes and conucos and there was hunger on the
island. The Tainos suffered most; an estimated 50,000 of them would
perish before year's end. The ancient Taino civilization and the simple
farming economy on which it depended were being destroyed by the
Europeans.....
Margarite, insulted by criticism of the conduct of his troops, left
Hispaniola and sailed for Spain. His soldiers, abandoned by their
commander, now became renegades and continued to harass and to
terrorize the Indians in the central districts. The rampage went on,
unabated, into 1495. The tormented Indians continued to flee this
brutality; they hid, starving in the rugged countryside.....
....There were many Indian captives from the recent battle. Instead of
releasing them, he planned to ship the Taino prisoners in bondage to
Spain. There, in the slave market of Seville, they would fetch profits
to pay the expenses of his enterprise.
So some 1,600 luckless Taino captives were rounded up and taken to
the port at Isabela. Only 500 of the captives, however, could be jammed
into the dark, dank holds of the four caravels returning to Spain. So
"the best males and females", like prize cattle, were selected for
shipment. Others were held as slaves to the colonists in Isabela.
The Indians taken aboard the Spanish vessels fared miserably,
huddled naked in the dark, smelly depths of the ships without warmth or
adequate sanitation. Almost half of them perished and were thrown
overboard during the stormy crossing. Those who survived to reach Spain
were in such poor condition that most soon died afterward.

page 57
The Tainos in the central districts were now completely dispirited,
and Columbus moved to take cruel advantage of them. He imposed a severe
tax upon every Indian male 14 years of age or older living in Cibao and
the Vega. Every 3 months, or 4 times a year, each man was required to
provide a quantity of gold dust, sufficient to fill a small copper bell
or be put to death.
The Tainos suffered horribly under the tribute. They found
themselves in a terrible trap. On the one hand, the Indians faced
starvation. On the other hand, they faced death if they failed to
provide the required tax. So, many Tainos gave up everything and fled
to the mountains. Homeless in their own land, they were hunted down
like animals by the Spaniards. Numbers of Indians decided to take their
own lives rather than submit to the white man's tyranny. They committed
suicide, deliberately drinking raw, poisonous cassava juice. Those who
tried to resist the oppressors were tortured and killed. Archeological
and historical evidence leads experts today to believe that the Taino
population of Hispaniola was about 1 million when Columbus first
arrived in 1492. By 1496, a third of these native people had perished.

page 60
In March or 1496, Columbus returned to Spain and left Bartolome behind
in charge of the colony. Months later, a letter from the Admiral
arrived, advising the Adelantado that a religious controversy in Spain
about the enslavement of the Indians had been resolved. It was decided
that making slaves ot the Tainos was acceptable only if the Indians
were taken as prisoners of war. In other words, it was necessary only
to accuse the Tainos of fighting back in order to deprive them of their
freedom.
So now it became a deliberate policy of the colonists to incite the
Indians to resist mistreatment in order to arrest and condemn them to
slavery. 300 Tainos were immediately accused and convicted of
rebellious or warlike acts by the Adelantado and promptly shipped off
to Spain to be sold into lifetime slavery.

page 65
So Bartolome returned with fresh forces and attacked the Macorix anew,
waging war for 3 months, until the end, he had subdued them and
recaptured Guarionex.
600 Macorix were also taken captive. Now Columbus had prisoners of
war to send to Spain. Pleased to have valuable slaves to ship home, the
Admiral loaded the captives aboard the two ships that sailed for Spain
in October 1498.

page 91
By 1548, less than 500 Tainos of pure blood remained on Hispaniola....
Although mestizo children, the offspring of Spanish and Indian parents
lived on Hispaniola from 1493 onward, the genes of West Indians today
are overwhelmingly of African and European origin.
The mineral and agricultural wealth sought by the Spanish conquerors
did not exist in the islands. The riches of the West Indies were their
people, the Tainos, and they were destroyed. There are no longer Tainos
planting manioc, no conucos, no joyous areytos and no proud caciques to
greet current visitors. The Tainos have been a forgotten people, a bit
of history encased in a museum, their story untold.
ElCid
2006-11-06 06:28:07 UTC
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I've got to laugh at filty pigs like you that say "we in the USA", hey
pig what is no that portion of north america known politically as the
"USA" comprises various provices of OUR NATION.
You northern European filth polluted OUR continent with your presence
here.
Face up to it you are nothing more than filthy sons and daughters
desecndants of SERFS...nothing more than white savage slaves.....
Your filthy race is made of of nothing but bastards, and to prove it
look up in an encyclopedia the word "jus primae noctis" Latin for "Law
of the first night", or sometimes "droit du seigneur", french for
right of the lord, under which she-bitch northern european brides
were compelled to their wedding night or week with the feudal lords of
the land before they were let go and sent back to the bastard
husband....NOW TALK ABOUT A BASTARDIZED RACE....
This took place throughout northern europe where feudalism took hold,
we in the iberian peninsula or in italy, never had to suffer the
humilitation your bastardized race had to endure......
Our ancestors did not come to america in steerage or in the hulls of
ships living with the rats, we came with the cross and sword the bring
christiantity.
Our task is not complete yet, we must bring Catholic christianity to
the bastardized serfs of northern europe who have become squatters in
our land.........
You pigs should go back where you came from, the ONLY language for the
americas is Spanish....period.
Post by S***@aol.com
We in the USA demand that Taino be made the one and only official
language of PortoRico. We would like to revive a language that was once
spoken all throughout PortoRico by the great Tainos. Taino was spoken
in
PortoRico BEFORE Spanish That Spanish is now the official language of
PortoRico, and not Taino, is not fair. We demand change now! Taino the
official language of PortoRico!
from "The Tainos, the people who welcomed Columbus", by Francine
Jacobs, copyright 1992
page 52
Though the admiral had directed that the Tainos be treated kindly and
with respect, he had turned loose an army of hungry soldiers. The
Spaniards swept across the once tranquil plains like a swarm of
locusts, leaving ruin and famine in their path. Taino villages were
sacked, and the little food stored in their huts was taken. The
oppressed Tainos fled their villages, abandoned their carefully
cultivated conucos and became refugees in their own land.
page 53
The Spanish depended upon the Indians to supply their food, but many
Tainos had fled their homes and conucos and there was hunger on the
island. The Tainos suffered most; an estimated 50,000 of them would
perish before year's end. The ancient Taino civilization and the simple
farming economy on which it depended were being destroyed by the
Europeans.....
Margarite, insulted by criticism of the conduct of his troops, left
Hispaniola and sailed for Spain. His soldiers, abandoned by their
commander, now became renegades and continued to harass and to
terrorize the Indians in the central districts. The rampage went on,
unabated, into 1495. The tormented Indians continued to flee this
brutality; they hid, starving in the rugged countryside.....
....There were many Indian captives from the recent battle. Instead of
releasing them, he planned to ship the Taino prisoners in bondage to
Spain. There, in the slave market of Seville, they would fetch profits
to pay the expenses of his enterprise.
So some 1,600 luckless Taino captives were rounded up and taken to
the port at Isabela. Only 500 of the captives, however, could be jammed
into the dark, dank holds of the four caravels returning to Spain. So
"the best males and females", like prize cattle, were selected for
shipment. Others were held as slaves to the colonists in Isabela.
The Indians taken aboard the Spanish vessels fared miserably,
huddled naked in the dark, smelly depths of the ships without warmth or
adequate sanitation. Almost half of them perished and were thrown
overboard during the stormy crossing. Those who survived to reach Spain
were in such poor condition that most soon died afterward.
page 57
The Tainos in the central districts were now completely dispirited,
and Columbus moved to take cruel advantage of them. He imposed a severe
tax upon every Indian male 14 years of age or older living in Cibao and
the Vega. Every 3 months, or 4 times a year, each man was required to
provide a quantity of gold dust, sufficient to fill a small copper bell
or be put to death.
The Tainos suffered horribly under the tribute. They found
themselves in a terrible trap. On the one hand, the Indians faced
starvation. On the other hand, they faced death if they failed to
provide the required tax. So, many Tainos gave up everything and fled
to the mountains. Homeless in their own land, they were hunted down
like animals by the Spaniards. Numbers of Indians decided to take their
own lives rather than submit to the white man's tyranny. They committed
suicide, deliberately drinking raw, poisonous cassava juice. Those who
tried to resist the oppressors were tortured and killed. Archeological
and historical evidence leads experts today to believe that the Taino
population of Hispaniola was about 1 million when Columbus first
arrived in 1492. By 1496, a third of these native people had perished.
page 60
In March or 1496, Columbus returned to Spain and left Bartolome behind
in charge of the colony. Months later, a letter from the Admiral
arrived, advising the Adelantado that a religious controversy in Spain
about the enslavement of the Indians had been resolved. It was decided
that making slaves ot the Tainos was acceptable only if the Indians
were taken as prisoners of war. In other words, it was necessary only
to accuse the Tainos of fighting back in order to deprive them of their
freedom.
So now it became a deliberate policy of the colonists to incite the
Indians to resist mistreatment in order to arrest and condemn them to
slavery. 300 Tainos were immediately accused and convicted of
rebellious or warlike acts by the Adelantado and promptly shipped off
to Spain to be sold into lifetime slavery.
page 65
So Bartolome returned with fresh forces and attacked the Macorix anew,
waging war for 3 months, until the end, he had subdued them and
recaptured Guarionex.
600 Macorix were also taken captive. Now Columbus had prisoners of
war to send to Spain. Pleased to have valuable slaves to ship home, the
Admiral loaded the captives aboard the two ships that sailed for Spain
in October 1498.
page 91
By 1548, less than 500 Tainos of pure blood remained on Hispaniola....
Although mestizo children, the offspring of Spanish and Indian parents
lived on Hispaniola from 1493 onward, the genes of West Indians today
are overwhelmingly of African and European origin.
The mineral and agricultural wealth sought by the Spanish conquerors
did not exist in the islands. The riches of the West Indies were their
people, the Tainos, and they were destroyed. There are no longer Tainos
planting manioc, no conucos, no joyous areytos and no proud caciques to
greet current visitors. The Tainos have been a forgotten people, a bit
of history encased in a museum, their story untold.
S***@aol.com
2006-11-07 02:56:31 UTC
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Post by ElCid
You northern European filth polluted OUR continent with your presence
here.
"filth"? And whose societies are total anarchy, chaos, violent, corrupt
and impoverished? Who pays their life savings to be sneaked into the
others society?
Post by ElCid
You pigs should go back where you came from, the ONLY language for the
americas is Spanish....period.
pigs? It's you Hispanicks who are descended from criminals:


from "Great Conquerors of South and Central America", by A. Hyatt
Verrill, copyright 1929
page 2.
It was natural that the men selected by leaders of such expeditions as
set sail for the New World were a far from desirable type as colonists
or settlers. The hazards of the voyages and explorations called for men
of a reckless, daring, unprincipled type. Later on Spain sent some of
her best citizens to guide the development of colonial life, but it
must be admitted that in the first stages of the venture the
participants, in considerable number, were actual or potential
criminals, smugglers, pirates, and thugs. Among the early adventurers
it was only by chance that now and then was found an out-at-elbow
cavalier, a ne'er-do-well scion of nobility, or some restless, romantic
soul of wealth and station.

from "From Columbus to Castro", by Eric Williams, copyright 1970.
page 37
In June 1497, on the occasion of Columbus' third voyage, a general
order was issued to all justices in Spain authorizing the
transportation to Hispaniola of criminals - with the exception of
heretics, traitors, counterfeiters and sodomites - in commutation of
death or prison sentences.

from the book "The Conquest of Paradise'" by Kirkpatrick Sale,
copyright 1990
page 156
....the Spaniards now on the island, some 630 of them in 1495,
perhaps as many as a thousand by 1500, and none too savory a lot. They
were more "canalla" than "hidalgo" now, for most of the gentlemen had
chosen to return to Castille, and those left behind, like those who
could be attracted out, came largely from the lower rungs of Spanish
life, some of them, Fernando reported, with clipped noses and ears,
sure sings of convicted robbers in Castille as in Espanola.
Inabón Yunes
2006-11-08 01:32:36 UTC
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lol
Did you say..."total anarchy, chaos, violent, corrupt
and impoverished"...?
Are you talking about the US of A?

Yes, because all that is happening in the country with no name!
Bush elected with the minority of votes then drives the US army to a war
with only anarchism as lead flag...
Chaos, Did you see what happened in Louisiana, Miami and Biloxi after
Katrina?
Violence, every week there is a massacre in a school.
Corrupt, How much money the government spent on the Iraq war and how much
ended up in the pockets of the Republican contributors?
Impoverishment, have you seen the statistics of children going to bed hungry
in the Appalachians?

Give me a break!

BTW, tu no eres más que un boricua abochornao, de samoano lo que tienes es
el nick solamente...
Post by S***@aol.com
Post by ElCid
You northern European filth polluted OUR continent with your presence
here.
"filth"? And whose societies are total anarchy, chaos, violent, corrupt
and impoverished? Who pays their life savings to be sneaked into the
others society?
Post by ElCid
You pigs should go back where you came from, the ONLY language for the
americas is Spanish....period.
from "Great Conquerors of South and Central America", by A. Hyatt
Verrill, copyright 1929
page 2.
It was natural that the men selected by leaders of such expeditions as
set sail for the New World were a far from desirable type as colonists
or settlers. The hazards of the voyages and explorations called for men
of a reckless, daring, unprincipled type. Later on Spain sent some of
her best citizens to guide the development of colonial life, but it
must be admitted that in the first stages of the venture the
participants, in considerable number, were actual or potential
criminals, smugglers, pirates, and thugs. Among the early adventurers
it was only by chance that now and then was found an out-at-elbow
cavalier, a ne'er-do-well scion of nobility, or some restless, romantic
soul of wealth and station.
from "From Columbus to Castro", by Eric Williams, copyright 1970.
page 37
In June 1497, on the occasion of Columbus' third voyage, a general
order was issued to all justices in Spain authorizing the
transportation to Hispaniola of criminals - with the exception of
heretics, traitors, counterfeiters and sodomites - in commutation of
death or prison sentences.
from the book "The Conquest of Paradise'" by Kirkpatrick Sale,
copyright 1990
page 156
....the Spaniards now on the island, some 630 of them in 1495,
perhaps as many as a thousand by 1500, and none too savory a lot. They
were more "canalla" than "hidalgo" now, for most of the gentlemen had
chosen to return to Castille, and those left behind, like those who
could be attracted out, came largely from the lower rungs of Spanish
life, some of them, Fernando reported, with clipped noses and ears,
sure sings of convicted robbers in Castille as in Espanola.
S***@aol.com
2006-11-08 02:50:59 UTC
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Post by Inabón Yunes
lol
Did you say..."total anarchy, chaos, violent, corrupt
and impoverished"...?
Are you talking about the US of A?
If that's how the USA is, why do you Hispanicks pay your life savings
and risk your lives to make all-out desperate attempts to sneak into
the USA?!


http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=112341&format=
MIAMI - A Cuban woman who arrived in Miami as a stowaway inside a
wooden crate on a cargo flight from the Bahamas is being allowed to
stay permanently in the United States.
Sandra De los Santos was granted political asylum Monday, nearly 15
months after a crew unloading the filing cabinet-sized DHL crate
discovered her at Miami International Airport.
"Now I really feel that I am firmly here, without fear," De los
Santos, 25, said after her hearing in immigration court. "I am still
nervous, but today I consider myself touched with happiness."
Inabón Yunes
2006-11-09 03:24:05 UTC
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Are you for real? listen dude, any empire or big city does the same.
Immigrants will happen to any country.
The only problem here is that you are so ashamed of being Hispanic that
despise everything that remembers your roots.
Hispanics, not anglos, are descendants of the two greatest empires that ever
existed in Europe, Roman and Greek.
Anglos benefited from the domination of Rome, not from the savages from the
north.

BTW, ya te comiste el arroz con habichuelas hoy?
iy
Post by Inabón Yunes
lol
Did you say..."total anarchy, chaos, violent, corrupt
and impoverished"...?
Are you talking about the US of A?
If that's how the USA is, why do you Hispanicks pay your life savings
and risk your lives to make all-out desperate attempts to sneak into
the USA?!


http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=112341&format=
MIAMI - A Cuban woman who arrived in Miami as a stowaway inside a
wooden crate on a cargo flight from the Bahamas is being allowed to
stay permanently in the United States.
Sandra De los Santos was granted political asylum Monday, nearly 15
months after a crew unloading the filing cabinet-sized DHL crate
discovered her at Miami International Airport.
"Now I really feel that I am firmly here, without fear," De los
Santos, 25, said after her hearing in immigration court. "I am still
nervous, but today I consider myself touched with happiness."

b***@bd5.com
2006-11-07 03:38:52 UTC
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Post by S***@aol.com
We in the USA demand that Taino be made the one and only official
language of PortoRico.
We in Puerto Rico demand that you apply for a refund for your
education.

<why do all these dipshit morons crawl out of their rocks around
election days? don't you have a sheep to screw or toothless skank to
keep you entertained?> <chuckle>
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